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Did you hear about the lawyer who discovered that a client had inadvertantly given him TWO $100 bills to setlle a $100 debt??
The attorney struggled with the moral question; "Should I tell my partner??"
My moral question relates to the possible removal of the cat converter from my '79.
Now first let me say that I am very GREEN. I recycle everything. But I question if a converter that is nearly 30 years old does anything. And I know they run very hot, and if clogged cause performance problems and may add to pollution.
My question to the jury then, what effect would removing the converter have?
I am thinking of going to side pipes.
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Send PMFrederick, MD - USA
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Remove the converter if your state doesn't perform emissions tests anymore after the car reaches a certain age...usually 25 years, but not all states allow it.
If your converter is partially or fully clogged, it will definitely run better. Even if it is operating OK, remove it and install a true dual exhaust system (or sidepipes) and the lessened back pressure will free up some horsepower and the car will run better...maybe cooler. No converter also will lessen the heat under the floorboards.
If your converter is partially or fully clogged, it will definitely run better. Even if it is operating OK, remove it and install a true dual exhaust system (or sidepipes) and the lessened back pressure will free up some horsepower and the car will run better...maybe cooler. No converter also will lessen the heat under the floorboards.
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Send PMHOWELL, NJ - USA
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Emissions go out the window when the converter is removed. A tough decision for a GREEN preson.
Then again, as Gunslinger mentioned, it's like giving your motor a get out of jail free card...
However, there are more expensive routes, for example, upgrading to a high performance converter....
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Headers ... Converter ... whatz that ??? Let me think... ya reckon the Harley guyz have converters on their bikes? NOT.... Take it off & rest your green mind. Let that car breath. 
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OK, Thanks to all.
VA does notrequire that I pass the emissions tests any longer. I only have to go through the safety inspection at this point.
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Year's ago, they use to sell a (test pipe) which replaced the converter. Wish I could get my hands on one now. Put one on my first 80 years ago, what a difference it made...
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Jerry, if you ever find a source for those test pipes for our cars, please post the supplier. I can find them all over the net for the ricers, but not for any domestic cars.
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[QUOTE=maintenance4]Year's ago, they use to sell a (test pipe) which replaced the converter. Wish I could get my hands on one now. Put one on my first 80 years ago, what a difference it made...[/QUOTE]
You will sometimes see these on e-bay.
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If you really wanted to run a straight pipe on your 'Vette I'm sure you could have the flanges cut off the stock coverter and TIG welded onto a section of stainless pipe.
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I talked to my local muffler shop and (1977 l48 stock) he told me that any car that originally had a cat cannot be modified by a shop due to a 2500.00 federal fine. He ajso told me that factory cats were 48% resrictive and the new cats are 95%.He told me the sound and performance with new cats would be like no cats at all.Any ideas?
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