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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 12/21/02 6:38amMessage 1 of 13
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ORANGE PARK, FL - USA
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Man, I am getting tired of wetsanding, but it has to be done.

We are closing the door on the big work. Later today we hope to get the jams prepped and painted.

With that said, we are going black with this monster. Since I have not had the endless man hours to simply keep priming and blocking, we are going a different route.

I am going to shoot the whole car base/clear in black with an otherwise garage paint job. So there will be trash, etc in it.

What this will do is let us see the flaws in the body, seal it in, and when he parks it in the sun for the next couple of months, it will help super heat the body and cure out the fillers to reduce final shrinkage.

After the motor is in and it is running, we will block the whole car down with 500, spot fill the bad spots, then shoot it the final black base and three coats of clear.

Seems like a lot of work, but this is how they do it in the high dollar shops, even if they are painting the car white. Black shows every flaw, so by painting the whole car with one quick black shot, the unforseen bad spots will jump out.
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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 12/22/02 7:07amMessage 2 of 13
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We did it! Man, it looks schweeeeeet. I almost think you could 2000 wet sand it now and buff it like a jewel.

However, that will come later. For now this black monster with its garage paint job (trash, runs and all), will be going back to Dave's house for the fire breathing big block to be dropped in and other things finished up.

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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 12/24/02 8:40amMessage 3 of 13
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 69MyWay said: We did it! Man, it looks schweeeeeet. I almost think you could 2000 wet sand it now and buff it like a jewel.

However, that will come later. For now this black monster with its garage paint job (trash, runs and all), will be going back to Dave's house for the fire breathing big block to be dropped in and other things finished up.

 


How about a shot with some better lighting!? It's hard to really see the paint.

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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 12/25/02 9:29amMessage 4 of 13
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got to this link here

http://www.tropiczoneracing.com/Street-Vette.htm

Let the photos load, and skip to the bottom. You will be able to see some great shots of it out in the sun.

I am fitting my electric headlight conversion to it next, spraying some textured (truck bed liner spray) on his inner fenders and firewall, then it goes back to his house for the engine install.
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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 12/26/02 12:08pmMessage 5 of 13
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Just reading your post on 'painting it black'. What I typically do when you want to see where the 'needs work' areas are is to 'dust' a coat of dark gray primer over the light gray primer. Now you block it to remove all the dark gray primer. What you will be left with is dark gray patches where the body is not flat, showing all the dings, dents, and scratches that need to be addressed. By using primer it is easy to sand. - Roy
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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 12/26/02 6:25pmMessage 6 of 13
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Hey Roy, I hear what you are saying.

I sprayed guide coat (a satin black) over the grey surface primer in between each series of block sanding sessions. You are right about it leaving the black color to indicate low spots.

The nice thing about putting the shinny black on the car is it lets you better see over all warpage, waves, and high/low spots as well as reactivating any old material below and letting it do a final shrink.

I think this car is going to be super when it is done.
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Posted: 1/2/03 5:52amMessage 7 of 13
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 Roy said: Just reading your post on 'painting it black'. What I typically do when you want to see where the 'needs work' areas are is to 'dust' a coat of dark gray primer over the light gray primer. Now you block it to remove all the dark gray primer. What you will be left with is dark gray patches where the body is not flat, showing all the dings, dents, and scratches that need to be addressed. By using primer it is easy to sand. - Roy 


THAT is exactly where I am with ''Rosie''. Started out with gray primer to see the bigger flaws that needed to be redone...then changed to BLACK primer to see the littler(is that a word?? |laugh| ) things that needed more. Still at that stage...this piddly crap is really annoying sometimes...but will be worth all the extra effort when the final paint does go on!
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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 1/2/03 5:55amMessage 8 of 13
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 69MyWay said: Hey Roy, I hear what you are saying.

I sprayed guide coat (a satin black) over the grey surface primer in between each series of block sanding sessions. You are right about it leaving the black color to indicate low spots.

The nice thing about putting the shinny black on the car is it lets you better see over all warpage, waves, and high/low spots as well as reactivating any old material below and letting it do a final shrink.

I think this car is going to be super when it is done.
 


I am almost at the point where a ''MAACO'' paint job would be very helpful to see whatever little things are still there...be worth the $200 to see before the GOOD paint goes on!! Last thing I want to see is a ''ripple'' along the quarter panel AFTER I spend the $BIG$ Bucks!
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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 1/6/03 4:31pmMessage 9 of 13
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I think there is a little bit of a disparity in the happiness here...



Cool presents dude!!!
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Painting it black, so that we can paint it black

Posted: 1/7/03 9:18amMessage 10 of 13
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Awsome "Haul" David. Good luck getting it all on the car first try |thumb| Merry Christmas Too!

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